162 lines
5.7 KiB
ReStructuredText
162 lines
5.7 KiB
ReStructuredText
.. title: Contacts Are In Roster And Also In Address Book
|
|
.. slug: addressbook-and-xmpp-roster
|
|
.. date: 2024-10-30 8:22:04 UTC
|
|
.. tags: address, addressbook, book, chat, contact, jabber, xmpp
|
|
.. category: journal
|
|
.. link: contacts-are-in-roster-and-also-in-address-book
|
|
.. description: Not all of your XMPP contacts should be in your roster.
|
|
.. type: text
|
|
|
|
Greetings, to one and all!
|
|
|
|
I gladly greet you, whether you are in my roster or in my address book or
|
|
neither.
|
|
|
|
Good news about Convo
|
|
---------------------
|
|
|
|
It was yesterday, that Mr. Badri Sunderarajan, the developer of the XMPP chat
|
|
client *Convo*, has announced that the download count of Convo has surpassed the
|
|
101 count in less than a day after he has published Convo at the repository of
|
|
`BananaHackers` <https://store.bananahackers.net/#Convo>`_.
|
|
|
|
With no advertising nor marketing, and plenty of foreign attempts to restrict
|
|
XMPP, it is a good display which indicates of the high popularity of XMPP.
|
|
|
|
This is indeed good news!
|
|
|
|
A note about adding of contacts
|
|
-------------------------------
|
|
|
|
While I was reading the release notes of the release titled "Channels"
|
|
(`Convo 0.1.0 <https://git.disroot.org/badrihippo/convo/releases/tag/0.1.0>`_),
|
|
I have further noticed, that there is an even earlier release; it is a
|
|
pre-release version titled "Early Preview" (Convo 0.1.0-pre1).
|
|
|
|
I was not certain as to how to interpret the following sentence.
|
|
|
|
> Keep in mind that you will probably want an extra client to do "advanced"
|
|
> things like adding a new contact.
|
|
|
|
### The XMPP roster has benefits
|
|
|
|
While the benefits of adding a contact and consequently subscribe to a contact
|
|
on the XMPP network allows to observe the status of the contact (e.g. online,
|
|
chatty, away and extended away) and status messages, which may also include
|
|
music titles of the music that the contact is currently listening to, and even
|
|
further includes moods and even activities.
|
|
|
|
`XEP-0107: Contact Mood <https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0107.html>`_
|
|
|
|
`XEP-0108: Contact Activity <https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0108.html>`_
|
|
|
|
The added benefits of the features that are exposed by subscribing to a contact
|
|
on XMPP are definitely useful, namely for contacts of people that you are either
|
|
constantly or physically interacted with (i.e. in "real life").
|
|
|
|
Otherwise, that information is distracting and you would not want to have that
|
|
contact in your roster, as it would not be productive.
|
|
|
|
A practice which I advocate
|
|
---------------------------
|
|
|
|
To realize the productivity matter, I will describe one of my recent
|
|
communications.
|
|
|
|
For example, in the last period of month, I have been contantly in contact with
|
|
Kris of `JoinJabber <https://joinjabber.org>`_, who is guiding my efforts towards
|
|
a new introduction and publishing system for XMPP (`JabberCard` </jabbercard>`_);
|
|
|
|
Both of us, are in direct contact for over three months, and non of us has ever
|
|
added the other counterpart to his roster nor shared his subscription with the
|
|
other, respectively.
|
|
|
|
Nevertheless, I did save the XMPP contact of Kris to my address book, and I have
|
|
also saved the XMPP address of the group chat JoinJabber to my address book too.
|
|
|
|
This is the entry which is saved in my computer as filename `joinjabber.vcf`.
|
|
|
|
```
|
|
BEGIN:VCARD
|
|
VERSION:4.0
|
|
FN:JoinJabber General Chat
|
|
ORG:JoinJabber
|
|
TITLE:An inclusive space on the Jabber network
|
|
URL:https://joinjabber.org
|
|
NOTE:A landing place for the open federated Jabber community.
|
|
X-XMPP;TYPE=MUC:xmpp:chat@joinjabber.org?join
|
|
END:VCARD
|
|
```
|
|
|
|
This matter also applies for channels (PubSub nodes) and group chats.
|
|
|
|
moparisthebest has said...
|
|
--------------------------
|
|
|
|
> I agree, I would go further and say that presence is an antiquated concept
|
|
> that has no place in modern messaging.
|
|
|
|
> "whether someone is currently online" mattered a ton in 1999 when people would
|
|
> not get your message at all if you sent it when people were offline.
|
|
|
|
> Today, people will get it whenever they want to get it, and will respond when
|
|
> they want to respond, hence presence is a completely useless concept.
|
|
|
|
I would not categorically determine that presence is a completely useless
|
|
concept, as it has its advantages by knowing when a friend is busy, and it is
|
|
also useful when engaging with automated software over XMPP (e.g. news bots).
|
|
|
|
Conclusion
|
|
----------
|
|
|
|
I maintain a roster which does not exceed 50 contacts.
|
|
|
|
Most of my roster contacts are:
|
|
|
|
* Family
|
|
* Local friends
|
|
* Frequent contacts
|
|
* Current associates
|
|
* Sports companions
|
|
|
|
And my address book currently has over 3,500 addresses which mostly includes
|
|
emails, IRC addresses and telephone numbers, and with over 800 contacts with
|
|
XMPP addresses.
|
|
|
|
The interactive benefits of the XMPP roster are useful to the highest extent in
|
|
history of instant messaging, and yet, as already mentioned, adding contacts to
|
|
the XMPP roster is mostly useful when those contacts are of your family,
|
|
friends, local community members, associates and colleagues of your work and of
|
|
your joint sports activities.
|
|
|
|
Other than those and, perhaps, other types that I might have neglected to
|
|
mention, use an address book as a mean to store addresses of contacts.
|
|
|
|
Best regards,
|
|
Schimon
|
|
|
|
Appendix
|
|
--------
|
|
|
|
People who I collaborate and communicate with on a weekly basis, without sharing
|
|
presence. We even communicate via VoIP.
|
|
|
|
Alex of `DenshiSite <https://denshi.org>`_
|
|
|
|
Diggy of `Dig Deeper <http://diggy.club>`_
|
|
|
|
`Hook <https://matija.suklje.name>`_
|
|
|
|
luna of `l4.pm <https://l4.pm>`_
|
|
|
|
magdesign of `PocketVJ <https://fosstodon.org/@pocketvj>`_
|
|
|
|
roughnecks of `WPN <https://blog.woodpeckersnest.space>`_
|
|
|
|
Staff members of `Simplified Privacy <https://simplifiedprivacy.com>`_
|
|
|
|
TheCoffeMaker of `Cyberdelia <https://cyberdelia.com.ar>`_
|
|
|
|
`ThUnD3r|Gr33n <xmpp:thorsten@emevth.no-ip.biz?vcard>`_
|
|
|
|
And others...
|