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.. title: Contacts Are In Roster And Also In Address Book
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.. slug: addressbook-and-xmpp-roster
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.. date: 2024-10-30 8:22:04 UTC
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.. tags: address, addressbook, book, chat, contact, jabber, xmpp
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.. category: journal
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.. link: contacts-are-in-roster-and-also-in-address-book
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.. description: Not all of your XMPP contacts should be in your roster.
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.. type: text
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Greetings, to one and all!
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I gladly greet you, whether you are in my roster or in my address book or
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neither.
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Good news about Convo
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It was yesterday, that Mr. Badri Sunderarajan, the developer of the XMPP chat
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client *Convo*, has announced that the download count of Convo has surpassed the
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101 count in less than a day after he has published Convo at the repository of
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`BananaHackers` <https://store.bananahackers.net/#Convo>`_.
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With no advertising nor marketing, and plenty of foreign attempts to restrict
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XMPP, it is a good display which indicates of the high popularity of XMPP.
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This is indeed good news!
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A note about adding of contacts
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While I was reading the release notes of the release titled "Channels"
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(`Convo 0.1.0 <https://git.disroot.org/badrihippo/convo/releases/tag/0.1.0>`_),
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I have further noticed, that there is an even earlier release; it is a
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pre-release version titled "Early Preview" (Convo 0.1.0-pre1).
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I was not certain as to how to interpret the following sentence.
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> Keep in mind that you will probably want an extra client to do "advanced"
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> things like adding a new contact.
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### The XMPP roster has benefits
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While the benefits of adding a contact and consequently subscribe to a contact
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on the XMPP network allows to observe the status of the contact (e.g. online,
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chatty, away and extended away) and status messages, which may also include
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music titles of the music that the contact is currently listening to, and even
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further includes moods and even activities.
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`XEP-0107: Contact Mood <https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0107.html>`_
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`XEP-0108: Contact Activity <https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0108.html>`_
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The added benefits of the features that are exposed by subscribing to a contact
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on XMPP are definitely useful, namely for contacts of people that you are either
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constantly or physically interacted with (i.e. in "real life").
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Otherwise, that information is distracting and you would not want to have that
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contact in your roster, as it would not be productive.
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A practice which I advocate
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To realize the productivity matter, I will describe one of my recent
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communications.
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For example, in the last period of month, I have been contantly in contact with
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Kris of `JoinJabber <https://joinjabber.org>`_, who is guiding my efforts towards
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a new introduction and publishing system for XMPP (`JabberCard` </jabbercard>`_);
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Both of us, are in direct contact for over three months, and non of us has ever
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added the other counterpart to his roster nor shared his subscription with the
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other, respectively.
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Nevertheless, I did save the XMPP contact of Kris to my address book, and I have
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also saved the XMPP address of the group chat JoinJabber to my address book too.
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This is the entry which is saved in my computer as filename `joinjabber.vcf`.
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```
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BEGIN:VCARD
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VERSION:4.0
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FN:JoinJabber General Chat
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ORG:JoinJabber
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TITLE:An inclusive space on the Jabber network
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URL:https://joinjabber.org
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NOTE:A landing place for the open federated Jabber community.
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X-XMPP;TYPE=MUC:xmpp:chat@joinjabber.org?join
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END:VCARD
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```
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This matter also applies for channels (PubSub nodes) and group chats.
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moparisthebest has said...
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> I agree, I would go further and say that presence is an antiquated concept
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> that has no place in modern messaging.
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> "whether someone is currently online" mattered a ton in 1999 when people would
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> not get your message at all if you sent it when people were offline.
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> Today, people will get it whenever they want to get it, and will respond when
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> they want to respond, hence presence is a completely useless concept.
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I would not categorically determine that presence is a completely useless
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concept, as it has its advantages by knowing when a friend is busy, and it is
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also useful when engaging with automated software over XMPP (e.g. news bots).
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Conclusion
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----------
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I maintain a roster which does not exceed 50 contacts.
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Most of my roster contacts are:
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* Family
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* Local friends
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* Frequent contacts
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* Current associates
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* Sports companions
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And my address book currently has over 3,500 addresses which mostly includes
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emails, IRC addresses and telephone numbers, and with over 800 contacts with
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XMPP addresses.
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The interactive benefits of the XMPP roster are useful to the highest extent in
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history of instant messaging, and yet, as already mentioned, adding contacts to
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the XMPP roster is mostly useful when those contacts are of your family,
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friends, local community members, associates and colleagues of your work and of
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your joint sports activities.
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Other than those and, perhaps, other types that I might have neglected to
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mention, use an address book as a mean to store addresses of contacts.
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Best regards,
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Schimon
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Appendix
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--------
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People who I collaborate and communicate with on a weekly basis, without sharing
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presence. We even communicate via VoIP.
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Alex of `DenshiSite <https://denshi.org>`_
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Diggy of `Dig Deeper <http://diggy.club>`_
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`Hook <https://matija.suklje.name>`_
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luna of `l4.pm <https://l4.pm>`_
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magdesign of `PocketVJ <https://fosstodon.org/@pocketvj>`_
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roughnecks of `WPN <https://blog.woodpeckersnest.space>`_
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Staff members of `Simplified Privacy <https://simplifiedprivacy.com>`_
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TheCoffeMaker of `Cyberdelia <https://cyberdelia.com.ar>`_
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`ThUnD3r|Gr33n <xmpp:thorsten@emevth.no-ip.biz?vcard>`_
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And others...
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